Two Ways of Looking at Things
There’s a lot of discussion raging right now about the faster-than-light neutrinos that supposedly have been observed at the CERN laboratories. Will this discovery disprove parts of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity and radically change the way we view the universe? Or is this just another case of experimental error?
Whatever the outcome, the one thing that is completely clear from the caution of the CERN scientists about their findings is the vast difference between the ways Science and Religion try to make sense of the universe. Here it is in summary:
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On god, holy books, and faster-than-light neutrinos
RELIGION
“Here’s this ancient Holy Book that contains the divinely-inspired words of God, the Creator of the Universe himself.
It tells you how you must live and how you must behave, what you can do and what you cannot do. If you think some parts of the book contradict other parts, remember that your human mind is too small to understand God’s mysterious ways.
Should you not obey our interpretation of this Book, you will suffer excruciating pain and torment for all eternity, after you die.
All this is absolutely true. How do we know? It’s written right there in the Book. DUH!”
SCIENCE
“We’ve apparently detected neutrino particles traveling faster than the speed of light, which means we are going to have to re-think a lot of things we thought we knew about the universe and how it works.
This is extremely exciting, but, even though we have actually observed this phenomenon tens of thousands of times, there is still the possibility that there was something wrong with our experiment.
So, to be as sure as we possibly can, we want other scientists to conduct their own experiments to independently reproduce and verify these results before we can accept them.”
Faith vs. evidence. Who you got?
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The problem with the above assertion is that Western Science came out of the Church.
They built the Universities, they funded them, they staffed them, they preserved and taught the ancient knowledge, theorised and tested new knowledge, they attended them, they set the curricula, they promoted the transfer and development of knowledge around Europe and not surprisingly they were the ones to found scientific fields and set scientific principles.
Clergy and theologians, founded the scientific fields of physics, chemistry, Big Bang cosmology, geography, palientology, microbiology, seismology, genetics and even evolution and more as well as creating the first mathematical models for heliocentrism and the atom and of course they actually were first at defining and then using the scientific method and then there was the important building of schools and Universities all over Europe. They also built hospitals for towns of more than 5000 people (by Papal decree) and for centuries medicine was the driver of Western science. And of course the doctors came out of medical faculties at Christian run Universities after 7 years of scientific training by professors (very often clergy) appointed by Bishops and Popes. Many of these scientific professors themselves became bishops and at least one became Pope.
You can’t do any more than that to create the Western scientific enterprise.
http://whatswrongwithatheism.wordpress.com/did-christianity-or-atheism-found-western-science/
@abucs
You leave out the horrendous treatment the Catholic Church meted out to scientists and progressive thinkers like Galileo, in order to suppress their ideas an maintain religion’s place as the sole authority on everything, and that’s just the beginning. Islam too was once the cradle of mathematics, astronomy and many other scientific disciplines, and Islamic scholars kept alive a lot of the old scientific knowledge handed down from the Greeks that would otherwise be lose. But look at Islam’s attitude today. How convenient of you to leave that out!
In any case, just because religious institutions (or members thereof) may have had a hand in founding or promoting what would later become the scientific enterprise, it does not mean that science, and the Scientific Method, has anything to do with religion. They are two completely different and opposite ways of looking at the universe.
Religion is based on believing things without any evidence. It relies on the interpretation of old scripture, on circular reasoning and on blind appeal to authority. On the other hand, proper science (yes, there are quacks who fudge their results and resort to bad science or pseudoscience to try to back up false claims) is founded upon on experimentation, observation and actual evidence that is obtained using strict methodologies in experiments that other scientists can review and replicate.
A long time ago, stuff like thunder and lightning were attributed to the gods because people did not know any better. Today we have proper scientific explanations and models of these and many other phenomena. I’m paraphrasing some famous quote I can’t find the reference to right now, but: Every new phenomenon science explains is another nail in the religion’s coffin.
I have to say i completely disagree. But then i would wouldn’t i? There is scientific evidence that God excists! God created the universe, science is just trying to figure it out! You really need to understand that. It’s like getting a new Mobile. You have don’t know how it works, and will spend time trying to learn how it does. Never though would you doubt that the mobile has a creator. You don’t understand what you are talking about. I do not know every single thing about Christianity (otherwise I would be God himself) but I do know that what you say is false. There’s many Christian scientists out there. I have even heard of atheists that have turned to God because through studying science they have come to know that he excists. Science is not exact. Some is proven but a lot is just theories. Some will prove to be true in future other will not. You seem to be very against Christianity but I think you need to understand it better.
Are you some kind of troll, Christian? “Scientific evidence that God exists…” If you could provide that, I assure you that you would win the Nobel prize to end them all LOL!
yeap your a troll….. and your stupid
also christians make hitler look like a tryhard
I’ve developed a better engineering proof there is no God. Use a microprocessor. The physics and manufacturing behind an Intel i7 is way more proof that there is no God playing with our universe than almost any other proof.
I’ve been a computer engineer for 30 years, and never have I ever heard another engineer or computer executive say they had a production problem due to demons or a devils invading a micro-processor. Computer chips always calculate 1+1=2. If there were a God twiddling with the physics of the universe, he sure must love the semi-conductor industry because computers have been adding 1+1 accurately for years. Sure there are “Bugs”, but these are due to design errors. Humand fix them. When a transistor is fabricated properly, it works amazingly well. The physics behind producing sub-micron transistor circuits that can perform billions of complex operations every second is incredibly complex. And every day, the semiconductor fabs of the world crank-out trillions of transistors that reliably do their job. If the physics of silicon atoms changed even slightly, the factories would quickly go silent. But this never happens. Intel can reliably put almost 2 billion transistors on a IC chip, and be certain the chips will work. Regardless of how their competitors pray to God that their transistor would work better than Intel’s, Intel transistors keep working.
Read my full article about proof that God is Not here: http://wecreatedgod.com/where-god-is-found/
Thanks, and never forget. We Created God.
John Sonnenberg…you poor, poor idiot of a ‘man’, thinking that YOU have it all figured out. Your level of self-pride is sickening. Oh, I wanted to mention that you spelled ‘God’ with a capital ‘G’…that made my day. God bless.